[tamil] The Philosophy of Meykandar-10


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Part III

3.0 Logic and Metaphysics

At the moment the scientific ethos throughout the world is constituted by the 
positive sciences with physics providing 
the model of a rigorous science. The closer a science approaches physics the 
more rigorous it is deemed to be. The 
onticals or physicals  are singled out as the chief expression of 
rationality, neglecting the ontological and hence the 
metaphysical and hermeneutical. Thus it becomes imperative to work out the 
essences of the hermeneutic sciences, 
their logic and in what sense it is also an expression of rationality. For 
within the ontological there can be the irrational 
as much as it can be within the ontical. Just as the notion of positive 
science  makes the ontical rational, so would the 
notion of hermeneutical science that of ontological. The LOGIC of Hermeneutic 
Sciences constitutes the Logic of 
genuine metaphysics.

The notion of scientific rigor in the positive sciences is strongly 
associated with the notions of instruments, their 
reliability and validity. Each time a hermeneutic science emerges, the 
positivists bounce upon it with the questions: 
What are the instruments? How reliable are they? How valid are the 
measurements, the analysis? and so forth. There 
is here a presumption, as already pointed out earlier, that anything 
scientific would mean instrumental interventions and 
quantitative analysis. The physical sciences are such sciences and when the 
notion of scientific rigor available here is 
extended to the human sciences, the same demands are made without realizing 
that there is a shift in the seeing, from 
ontical to ontological. When this shift is taken into account, it is clear 
that  it is  NOT that there is no scientific rigor but 
only that it takes a different form that needs to be worked out.  It is in 
working out this that we come to see the LOGIC of 
not only hermeneutics sciences but metaphysics as such. We shall do this by 
taking up samples of hermeneutic 
sciences where the notion of scientific rigor emerges most clearly within the 
framework of ontology and Temporal 
Analytics from which it cannot be dissociated.

3.1 TEXTS and ontopretations or The Notion of Utti (as expounded in the 
Marapiyal of Tolkaappiyam)

As we have already noted, the hermeneutic problems are problems already 
constituted at the genesis itself as 
onto-enigmas and which always presuppose the existence of TEXT and a 
particular reading of it. This does not mean 
only the verbal texts and such entities give rise to such enigmas. Every 
element of experience holds the possibility of 
being a TEXT or a brute factual data depending on whether the seeing is 
ontological or ontical. Every ontological 
seeing sees only TEXTS with their attendent  duality of structure. TEXTUALITY 
is not an objective quality of a 
thing - it belongs to the seeing, where the seeing is ontological, that which 
is seen is a TEXT. It may be verbal or 
nonverbal productions of individuals or some kind of presentations made 
available to an individual the origins of 
which may be obscure (e.g. dreams). But all such TEXTS, by  virtue of being 
seen as a TEXT have a Surface 
Structure that points beyond itself to a (or indicative of) Deep Structure 
having elements in it that in fact constitutes the 
textual character of the Surface Structure of the TEXT. The following are two 
examples of such TEXTS one verbal, 
the other nonverbal.

TEXT 1 : (Part of classroom instruction on Language in the primary school, 
first grade. The text is excerpt of a 
middle of an ongoing lesson, videotaped and transcribed)
1. Guru: Semua sebut [huu....]                                 1. T : All say 
[huu....]
2. SM : huuu....                                                    2. A.C : 
huu...
3. G : sekali lagii ....                                              3. T : 
Once again ...
4. SM : huuu...                                                     4. A.C: 
huuu.....
5. G : Baik, Kumpulan A                                        5. T : Okay, 
group A
6. K.A: huu ....                                                     6. G.A: 
huu ...
7. G : Semua dikumpulan B sebut                             7. T : All in 
group B, pronounce it
8. K.B: huu ....                                                     8. G.B: 
huu...
9. G : Baik,sekarang (sticks pictures                           9. T : Okay 
now ( .... ):
the board): Ini gambar apa?                                                 
What is this picture?
10. M : Pokok                                                       10. C : 
Tree



 (G) Guru : Teacher (r): Semua murid (SM) All children (A.C), Murid (M) child.
The Text 2 is from Family Portrait Test, similar to New BAUM TEST, species of 
ACCESS TESTS used in Agamic 
Psychology (Yoshikawa, K. Loganathan Mutarayan, 1985). A four year old male 
child who had problems in 
quantitative competence was asked to draw his mother, his father, himself as 
now and himself when big (or grown 
up). The drawings as produced by the child are reproduced below (eye-copies)

 Text 2  A. Mother , large with arms. B. Father small, without arms. C. Self 
like father D. Self like father but bigger.

 Both are Texts in the sense that they have a DUAL Structure, the surface and 
the deep, the meaningless scratches or 
scribbles and at the same time significatory or communicative of something. 
But the onto-enigmas do not emerge just 
by noting these features; the Texts have to be accessed appropriately so that 
one is not trapped by the ontic-enigmas 
(the phonological, syntactical; size, frequency, deletions and omissions 
etc). In Text 1 the onto-enigma emerges when 
the repeated occurrence of the discourse-marker `Baik, sekarang’ is noted and 
we raise the question: Why the 
repetition precisely in the manner it does in the TEXT? What is IN the 
teacher that compels him to doso ? Similarly in 
Text 2 .  After noting that the drawn figure of mother is larger than father, 
and that while the mother has arms  the 
father doesn’t, an onto-enigma emerges when we raise questions such as: What 
is IN the child that makes him draw or 
represent his mother and father in the above different ways?

Such questions are what we shall call ontological or metaphysical , questions 
seeking to locate elements in the deep 
structures that would account for the observable in the surface structure of 
the Texts. There is a way of constituting the 
enigma itself so that instead of ontical, ontological questions are raised. 
For example in Text 1, when we note that 
while the utterance pairs (1,2), (3,4), (5,6), (7,8) have a certain 
completeness or saturatedness characteristic of them 
and the movement from one pair to the following non-disruptive or connected, 
at (9) however there is 
BREAKDOWN or DISRUPTION along with the introduction of something DIFFERENT. 
There is, in other words, 
a RECONSTITUTION of the nature of the interactivity itself which once 
recognized for what it is, gives rise to the 
ontological questions: Why so? and along with it the emergence of 
onto-enigmas. 

In the smooth development of the interactivity this BREAK constitutes a 
departure and which through that causes the 
emergence of an onto-enigma. One who sees this and is caught by that 
onto-enigma, seeks out the elements in the D.S 
of the text, the elements that are there but hidden from view. Something in 
the text remains covered up and which he 
sees now as resisting his standing-under. He sees himself as having a 
BLINDNESS on account of which something 
remains unavailable to his SEEING. He initiates now what the hermeneuts have 
called interpretive movements, 
investigations into the implicative structures, semiological studies and so 
forth. But we shall avoid these and use the 
term onto-pretations (Tamil:utti, sk: ukti) instead for an important reasons. 
The interpretive movements or translational 
maneuvers above seem to be processes that do not affect the researcher as a 
person but only his understanding, which 
obviously is not the case. The onto-enigmas such as the above also disclose 
an aspect of his Being, in this case his 
Being as one who is IGNORANT, who has yet to SEE certain things that are 
there in the TEXT but which are 
covered up FROM him. The COVEREDUPNESS is NOT something DONE by the text; but 
something is so only 
because he has not yet that COMPETENCY that would enable him to SEE; provides 
him with that VISION that 
would allow him to SIGHT it immediately. The onto-pretations are maneuvers 
that would in fact remove or destroy 
this BLINDNESS or incompetence. They are, in other words, activities of 
LEARNING in the authentic sense, 
activities in which one’s IGNORANCE is reduced, incompetence destroyed. The 
onto-pretations are educative and 
pedagogical and hence something quite different from the interpretations.

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